# Liquidity Mining Strategy

**URL:** <https://gov.indexcoop.com/t/liquidity-mining-strategy/1570>\
**Category:** Products\
**Created:** [21 May 2021 22:46 UTC](https://gov.indexcoop.com/t/liquidity-mining-strategy/1570 "2021-05-21T22:46:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
**Page:** 2

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![overanalyser](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/gov.indexcoop.com/overanalyser/32/1319_2.png) [@overanalyser](https://gov.indexcoop.com/u/overanalyser)\
**Post date:** [5 June 2021 12:41 UTC](https://gov.indexcoop.com/t/liquidity-mining-strategy/1570/22 "2021-06-05T12:41:29Z")

</div>

A quick update on this,

There is a small work team looking at Uni v3 and the pro’s and cons for users / LP’s and the coop.

We have already got uni L3 pools for [DPI](https://info.uniswap.org/#/pools/0x9359c87b38dd25192c5f2b07b351ac91c90e6ca7) and [ETH2-FLI](https://info.uniswap.org/#/pools/0x151ccb92bc1ed5c6d0f9adb5cec4763ceb66ac7f) so we are starting to collect data on the volumes / fee APY and trade sizes.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![overanalyser](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/gov.indexcoop.com/overanalyser/32/1319_2.png) [@overanalyser](https://gov.indexcoop.com/u/overanalyser)\
**Post date:** [26 June 2021 10:18 UTC](https://gov.indexcoop.com/t/liquidity-mining-strategy/1570/23 "2021-06-26T10:18:30Z")

</div>

# A further update:

V3 work team analysis can be found here:

> [@Uniswap V3 - research and recommendations](https://gov.indexcoop.com/t/uniswap-v3-research-and-recommendations/1784):
>
> authors: @verto0912 @jdcook @overanalyser @catjam @Matthew_Graham @Pepperoni_JoeSummary With the introduction of concentrated liquidity, Uniswap increased capital efficiency for LPs and unlocked better trade execution for users. Same execution, in terms of price impact, can now be achieved with liquidity pools that are, on average, 4 times smaller. This has significant implications for liquidity mining incentives, which are the biggest expense for Index Coop. We looked at the impact of Uni V…

and I did some number crunching on uni v2 and v3 liquidity pools for DPI:ETH

> [@DPI:ETH Liquidity on Uniswap v2 and v3](https://gov.indexcoop.com/t/dpi-eth-liquidity-on-uniswap-v2-and-v3/1720):
>
> DPI liquidity on Uniswap v2 and v3 warning, long and technical (and probably littered with errors), I would put this in my blog, but it’s not fully formed… Ok, a few members of the PWG has been looking at Uniswap v3 and how the coop can use it to improve matters for users, LPs and the coop [Forum post coming soon]. When we started, I was aware that we had ETH2-FLI liquidity on v3, but I wasn’t aware that there was a DPI:ETH [v3 pool](https://info.uniswap.org/#/pools/0x9359c87b38dd25192c5f2b07b351ac91c90e6ca7) running. So I decided to do some digging: The basic process …

* * *

With the end of the 90 liquidity mining campaigns for both MVI and DPI, my attention is turning back to two things:

1. What do we need to do to maintain liquidity through July?
2. What is the best solution for the new products (BED and SMI)?
3. How do we better manage liquidity moving forward?

And let us not forget that liquidity mining is expensive (we currently spend 20,296 INDEX over 30 days) = $300 k @ $15 INDEX, or $1.2 M @ $60.

There are lots of moving parts/interdependencies on this (which I think is why I find it so fascinating) and we are still learning:

- Sector products (DPI & MVI) are very different to the FLI products.
- Uni v3 allows more depth with less liquidity (but need more active management)
- We are in a Bear market - volume / fees and APY’s have dropped so old framework assumptions don’t hold.
- L2 trade volumes have taken off and having L2 liquidity will reduce costs for smaller traders.
- Others are providing liquidity mining incentives on L2 (Sushi, Matic, Quick)
- L2 adds friction/delays to Arbitrage between pools.
- [INDEXcoop.com](http://INDEXcoop.com) and [Tokensets.com](http://Tokensets.com) buy flows use Uniswap v2 liquidity (until exchange issuance becomes cost-effective).
- Issuance and redemption arbitrage for DPI happens via uniswap v2.
- With the diversification of the coop treasury, we can consider direct liquidity provision of some smaller products to produce the desired trade depth.

* * *

Over the next couple of days I’m going to do some digging and will be sharing my thoughts on a number of areas around liquidity mining and our different products. The objective is as follows:

- Attempt to share insights.
- Provoke discussion and fill the gaps in my analysis (which there will be),
- Build consensus on what the coop should be doing for Liquidity mining.
- Draft some IIP’s for liquidity mining so we can maintain what Liquidity mining programmes we want to continue.

please get involved, share your thoughts and challenge me where you think I’m wrong.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![overanalyser](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/gov.indexcoop.com/overanalyser/32/1319_2.png) [@overanalyser](https://gov.indexcoop.com/u/overanalyser)\
**Post date:** [26 June 2021 12:12 UTC](https://gov.indexcoop.com/t/liquidity-mining-strategy/1570/24 "2021-06-26T12:12:47Z")

</div>

## Some observations on being a MVI:ETH LP

I’m going to try and split my post into chunks because I think it will be both easier to write and comprehend. I’m going to start with MVI, because I think it’s the simplest liquidity (sector product in one DEX).

Before I get to the coops considerations for LM, I thought I would capture some insights into being an LP on this pool.

On a standard xy=k AAM pool, (i.e. Uniswap v2) the LP provides equal $ values of each token to the pool and allows people to trade one for the other. As the price changes, the pool will accumulate more of the token that is dropping compared to the other. So, the LP is always at a disadvantage compared to holding the tokens in a cold wallet. This disadvantage (Divergence or impermanent loss) is countered by:

1. Trading fees (0.3% of trade volume across the pool)
2. Liquidity mining rewards from staking he LP token.

So, for a LP, they need to think in terms of the pair (MVI:ETH), the relative prices, trade volume in the pool and rewards.

**note, all % are since launch on the 7th April, NOT annual**

Since launch in April, staking the MVI:ETH pair had resulted in:

1. a significant drop in the MVI:ETH price (0.051 to 0.0169),

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/uploads/theindexdao/original/2X/a/a97ed7330c8c0a256f33f1836ce00548f48e67bb.png)

This 67% price drop (divergence), results in a 13.5% loss compared to buy and hold. (See [loss calculator](https://www.coingecko.com/en/yield-farming) on coin gecko).

[croco.finance](https://croco.finance/dashboard) for this pool indicates that if you were an LP since launch, the fees collected comprise 12.8% of the current value. I.e. the fees have added ~ 14% to the value held.

The [INDEXcoo.com](http://INDEXcoo.com) staking contract has resulted in index tokens worth ~5% of the current pool value (calculated @ $15 INDEX - claiming and selling INDEX at higher prices would have crystalised more gains.

This can be summarised as:

| MVI:ETH LP 07 April to 26 Jun 21 (80 days) | |
| --- | --- |
| Divergence in price | 67% |
| Divergence loss | -13.5% |
| Fee income | 14.7% |
| INDEX income (@$15 INDEX) | 0.3% |
| Net income | 1.5% |
| Annulised income | 7.0% |

However, looking at the trade chart, it’s clear that the majority of the trading volume was early in the product life.

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/uploads/theindexdao/original/2X/f/f30dcbe4fe413811339867ab7f2c1b92ed2d05ef.jpeg)

Looking at croco finance for the last 30 days indicates a current fee income of ~ 2.4% per year. [Daily average fee \* 365 / pool value]

**Overall,** being an LP has got less attractive over the last 80 days.

* * *

A quick edit to say that while researching this post I’ve discovered that there is a small Uni v3 pool for MVI.

I’ve decided to add to move some of my MVI ETH liquidity to the v3 pool as a personal experiment.

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/uploads/theindexdao/original/2X/5/565fe5d79d3a71d0b80ae0d5e32b03910443a038.png)

Note, I think the TLV locked in v3 is incorrect, I think it is only counting the value of ETH in the pool. There is currently 520 MVI worth a total of ~$15 k to add to the $8 of ETH.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![overanalyser](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/gov.indexcoop.com/overanalyser/32/1319_2.png) [@overanalyser](https://gov.indexcoop.com/u/overanalyser)\
**Post date:** [26 June 2021 22:26 UTC](https://gov.indexcoop.com/t/liquidity-mining-strategy/1570/25 "2021-06-26T22:26:04Z")

</div>

## Looking at MVI liquidity from a product point of view.

**TLDR:**

- Liquidity, as measured in $USD, has dropped in line with the price decline.
- MVI:ETH liquidity in terms of LP tokens is much stickier than I previously suspected.
- Maintaining uni v2 liquidity is recommended based on the [Uniswap v3 review.](https://gov.indexcoop.com/t/uniswap-v3-research-and-recommendations/1784)
- I’m recommending a further 30 days liquidity mining campaign with unchanged rewards ( 3,286 INDEX over 30 days) but I want to hear others thoughts.

* * *

OK, MVI is 80 days old, and we launched with a 90 day campaign of liquidity mining rewards.

So, it’s time to look back at what we did, what happened, and look forward to whats next:

**What have we done,** the Liquidity mining campaign:

| Days | Target MVI:ETH AUM | Actual AUM at end ($ M) | INDEX rewards over 30 days | Change in # INDEX | TWAP price at start | cost at starting price |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| [1 to 30](https://gov.indexcoop.com/t/iip-24-mvi-liquidity-mining/1084/10) | $ 5 M | 6.4 | 3810 | n/a | 36.68 | $139,751 |
| [31 – 60](https://gov.indexcoop.com/t/mvi-liquidity-mining-7/1440) | $ 5 M | 4.1 | 2743 | -28% | 37.81 | $103,713 |
| [61 – 80](https://gov.indexcoop.com/t/mvi-liquidity-mining-june-2021/1646) | $ 5 M | 2.6 | 3286 | 20% | 35.8 | $117,639 |

* * *

**What happened:**  
Looking at JD’s MVI [dashboard.](https://duneanalytics.com/jdcook/MVI) we can see the value of MVI available as liquidity (note total liquidity will be twice this value) and that this has dropped significantly since the start of May.

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/uploads/theindexdao/original/2X/c/cc4beebd8739e2af037dfc62f2e79db3d4fd86b1.png)

At the moment, we have ~$2.5 M liquidity ($1.26 M x 2). Which is significantly less than we have been targeting since MVI was launched.

Looking at the change in LM rewards (above), there could be a decrease in liquidity (in USD terms) associated with the cut in Rewards in early May, but little sign of an increase in liquidity when INDEX tokens were increased in Mid June.

However, when we look at the number of [LP tokens](https://duneanalytics.com/queries/69409), which represent people actually adding or removing liquidity from the pool. LP’s appear largely insensitive to the changes in the number of tokens issued:

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/uploads/theindexdao/original/2X/c/c13c257ebb703c5b049d1c98140cb6de951fb15f.png)

i.e. neither cutting # INDEX by 28% nor increasing by 20% resulted in significant addition or removal of liquidity (~10 May and ~10 June). In addition, the wide range in INDEX price between ~$60 in mid-May to ~$15 currently seen appears to have minimal impact on the number of LP tokens.

**My thoughts** on this is:

1. MVI LP’s are much stickier than I had thought.
2. Yields have dropped across the board, so many farmers are accepting lower yields from the pools they are in.

Based on this, I think that the moderate changes in INDEX rewards (+/- 30%) are unlikely to change the number of LP tokens we have for MVI:ETH.

* * *

**How much Liquidity do we need:**

In the past we have looked at $ value required to get a certain price impact on the pool.

| Impact | Trade size | Trade size (ETH) | Trade size MVI (@$30) |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 0.8% | $6,190 | 3.55 | 206 |
| 1.0% | $8,780 | 5 | 293 |
| 2.0% | $21,000 | 12.2 | 700 |

So our 2% depth is ~ 50% of what we had at the end of May.

Trade volume was massive in [April](https://v2.info.uniswap.org/pair/0x4d3c5db2c68f6859e0cd05d080979f597dd64bff), but has been much lower for the past 60 days:

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/uploads/theindexdao/original/2X/a/a3d9c50d1404ab51b349b0ac32cf2350dbf03a31.jpeg)

The last 30 days look like this, with the average day being maybe $100 k of total volume:

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/uploads/theindexdao/original/2X/9/95113e1230f093386724260d865fd29293679553.jpeg)

Looking at the pool data from etherscan since the 27th of April, we have 2022 transactions and I’ve done a very rough manual analysis.

Of the 2,022, I’ve noted 5 trades over 700 MVI (with the largest at 2,114 MVI). and a further 15 between 500 and 700 MVI.

**Personally,** I would describe this fraction of trades that could have large price impacts as acceptable

* * *

**Overall,**

1. I see the MVI:ETH LP’s as being pretty sticky in both ways. So unless we make significant changes in the rewards in either direction, I don’t expect major changes to the number of LP tokens (AUM will track the ETH and MVI price)
2. I think that the available pool is pretty well sized for the individual trades and overall trade volume.

As a result, I don’t see a strong reason for increasing or decreasing the number of INDEX tokens allocated for the next 30 days (i.e. 3,286 over 30 days starting ~ 10 June 2021).

However, I’m looking forward to hearing other people opinions on this matter.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![overanalyser](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/gov.indexcoop.com/overanalyser/32/1319_2.png) [@overanalyser](https://gov.indexcoop.com/u/overanalyser)\
**Post date:** [27 June 2021 12:54 UTC](https://gov.indexcoop.com/t/liquidity-mining-strategy/1570/26 "2021-06-27T12:54:07Z")

</div>

## Looking at ETH2-FLI liquidity from a product point of view.

**TLDR**

- EHT2-FLI has continual unit supply growth
- Liquidity in $ AUM grew during the Bull market but has shrunk during the current Bear.
- Liquidity in terms of the number of ETH2-FLI available to purchase has continued to increase.
- From a product point of view, I’m not seeing a need to start liquidity mining ETH2-FLI liquidity on L1.

* * *

Ok, the FLI products are very different to DPI and MVI, they are designed to be traded and only held for short periods.

As they have fewer components, the issue gas costs are much lower ([~540 k for ETH2](https://etherscan.io/tx/0xc82ac80f8566a641c4bba343b759ca5cd6005f931a0495654068bf6ffec325de) vs [~1,800 k for DPI](https://etherscan.io/tx/0x5095875c5c6c98196c7302189d81808f57f9a8de0bd64690ce33879b5a264de5) ) (although FLI has an added issue/redeem fees).

ETH2-FLI was launched with a cap on units which was rapidly reached and the cap raised. This rapid growth of AUM and liquidity mean that the planned liquidity mining for ETH2-FLI was put on hold.

**ETH2-FLI AUM and supply**  
An initial observation is that while the [AUM shows](https://duneanalytics.com/jdcook/ETH2x-FLI) a pretty wild ride with AUM peaking over $120 M:

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/uploads/theindexdao/original/2X/c/c503f8cd6355263a6bb5f3aa0cd80ad92de2826a.png)

The number of circulating tokens continues to increase.

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/uploads/theindexdao/original/2X/a/af0c9c44dfb62b7f1dfac1fba6364912d86f0000.png)

_[personally, I’m a little surprised by this as I would expect redemption of ETH2-FLI in a bull market to avoid [volatility decay](https://medium.com/indexcoop/how-volatility-decay-affects-fli-products-a10f94977da5) which affects [leveraged contracts/funds](https://www.coingecko.com/buzz/part-1-introduction-to-crypto-leveraged-etf?utm_source=gov.INDEXcoop.com)]_

**DEX liquidity**  
There is currently significant liquidity and trade volume on both Uniswap v2 and v3. _Note, I’m not familiar with Uni v3 analytics, so I’ll compare the data from Uniswap, and look and v2 using Dune_

| 27jun21 | Unit | Uni v2 | Uni v3 |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| AUM | Million $ | 4.62 | 6.15 |
| 14 day average trade | Million $ | 1.96 | 4.26 |
| 14 day average fee | $ | 5,867 | 12,765 |
| Annualised average fee income | % | 46% | 76% |
| ETH2-FLI in pool | # ETH2-FLI | 43,375 | 97,530 |
| ETH in pool | ETH | 1,269 | 530 |
| ETH2-FLI in pool | $ M USD | $2.4 | $5.3 |
| ETH in pool | $ M USD | $2.3 | $1.0 |
| Sell ETH for 1% price impact | ETH | 9.0 | 20.0 |
| Buy ETH for 1% price impact | ETH | 9.0 | 24.5 |
| Sell ETH for 2% price impact | ETH | 22.2 | 54.0 |
| Buy ETH for 2% price impact | ETH | 22.2 | 51.0 |

One key consideration is that, unlike v2, v3 liquidity is not symmetrical, so price impact can not be easily calculated. For example, at the moment, the v3 pool has much more ETH2-FLI locked ($5.2 ) than ETH ($1.0 M)

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/uploads/theindexdao/original/2X/0/0c3b023a1fd2f1b6e3fc78fafdb3995abe816c4d.png)

Even so, it’s clear that traders get better prices on v3, and LPs are (on average) getting better income from v3.

Using the [flipside v3 calculator](https://uniswapv3.flipsidecrypto.com/) it’s possible to identify liquidity bounds that will produce returns higher than the 76$ average (but need more active management to stay in range).

**Historical Uniswap v2 liquidity**  
While the majority of liquidity and trade volume is on v3, the v2 pool has run for the entire product life and is easier to analyse.

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/uploads/theindexdao/original/2X/c/c45b01d0fe5730e0c67d5c9c35dcf1189e024ed4.png)

This shows the number of v2 LP tokens increasing until early May when it declined rapidly (when the v3 pool was launched), since late May there has been little movement in the number of LP tokens (although the number of ETH2-FLI in the pool will have increased as the price relative to ETH dropped).

* * *

**Do we need to provide liquidity mining for ETH2-FLI?**  
The market is currently producing liquidity pools which allow ~30 ETH (~$55,000) trades at 1% price impact. and ~75 ETH trades at 2%.

While I’ve not done a detailed review of trades on Etherscan, it’s clear that there are a number of swaps happening in this range (e.g. [50 ETH on v2 and v3 via paraswap](https://etherscan.io/tx/0x05c74d2977ce2779f61d956382adfaf583eab209924add50a257b3c39fc7a29b))

However, given that LP’s are currently enjoying rewards of ~50%, and we already have $11 M of liquidity, I would expect any campaign designed to result in a significant increase in Liquidity would be expensive in terms of INDEX tokens (+10$ M of v2 liquidity @ 50% APY for 30 days could be $410 K ~ 24,000 INDEX).

As such, I do not see Liquidity mining ETH2-FLI (on L1) as being the best use of the coops INDEX resources at this time.

However, I’m happy to hear others opinions (or read a review of the ETH2-FLI trade sizes…).

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![overanalyser](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/gov.indexcoop.com/overanalyser/32/1319_2.png) [@overanalyser](https://gov.indexcoop.com/u/overanalyser)\
**Post date:** [27 June 2021 14:13 UTC](https://gov.indexcoop.com/t/liquidity-mining-strategy/1570/27 "2021-06-27T14:13:29Z")

</div>

## Looking at BTC2-FLI liquidity from a product point of view.

**TLDR**

- BTC2-FLI enjoys liquidity mining incentives from Sushiswap
- This has resulted in a single pool of ~$5.6 M which includes ~50% of the tokens issued.
- From a product point of view, I don’t see a need for INDEXcoop to start liquidity mining BTC2-FLI liquidity on L1.

* * *

OK, BTC2-FLI is next. This launched almost at the peak of the bull market with liquidity on sushiswap (which behaves just like uni v2).

Unit supply climbed rapidly on launch and has been largely [flat since then](https://duneanalytics.com/jdcook/Index-Coop):

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/uploads/theindexdao/original/2X/0/0172ee8e6ef469061678264a2358a2d95b8e7755.png)

AUM shows a similar trend with the drop in prices resulting in AUM being lower than it was 2 weeks ago.

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/uploads/theindexdao/original/2X/c/c6623b71536bdabced1342bb214b9c06714be9ad.png)

* * *

# BTC2-FLI liquidity

Looking at the sushiswap pool, we see the following:

| 27jun21 | Unit | Sushiswap |
| --- | --- | --- |
| Liquidity AUM | Million $ | 5.66 |
| 14 day average trade | Million $ | 0.90 |
| 14 day average fee | $ | 2,689 |
| Annualised average fee income | % | 17% |
| Annualised Sushi rewards | % | 24% |
| Total rewards for LP’s | % | 41% |
| BTC2-FLI in pool | # BTC2-FLI | 115,800 |
| wBTC in pool | wBTC | 90 |
| BTC2-FLI in pool | $ M USD | $2.8 |
| BTC in pool | $ M USD | $2.8 |
| Sell BTC for 1% price impact | $ | $31,300 |
| Buy BTC for 1% price impact | $ | $31,300 |
| Sell BTC for 2% price impact | $ | $62,900 |
| Buy BTC for 2% price impact | $ | $62,900 |

Overall, ~50% of the total supply is in the liquidity pool available to trade:

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/uploads/theindexdao/original/2X/f/f85e3a60a2bcd71a041d4c50b6bbb978356c7eb1.png)

Comparing the BTC2-FLI with the ETH2 liquidity a few things stand out:

- We haven’t seen any liquidity being placed in uniswap v3
- A higher proportion of the BTC2 is in the liquidity pool.
- BTC2 LP’s are receiving ~41% which is close to that seen for ETH2 LP’s.

I think that these are all related to the provision of $SUSHI rewards for the pool. This also leads me to think that:

- The market for x2 FLI products liquidity is currently ~40% (While DPI and MVI is probably closer to 25%).

_An interesting question is whether a Uni v3 pool would result in more trading as arbitrage could open between the pools)_

The Sushiswap Onsen programme is currently allocating 572.3 SUSHI per day to this pool ($3,800 or equivalent to 6,800 INDEX over a 30 day cycle).

* * *

**Comparison with ETH2-FLI**

| 27jun21 | Unit | ETH2-FLI | BTC2-FLI |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| Market cap | $ M USD | 29 | 5.5 |
| DEX liquidity (pair) | $ M USD | 11 | 5.6 |
| trade volume | $ M USD | 4.7 | 0.5 |
| Volume / liquidity | % | 43% | 9% |

While ETH2 is ~6 times larger than BTC2 in total AUM, it enjoys ~x10 more trade volume.

The smaller pool for BTC2 means that price impact becomes a consideration much sooner. The current range of $31 to $62 k for 1 to 2% impact is probably sufficient. However, if the pool shrinks further (e.g. due to ONSEN rewards stopping), then improving the depth (liquidity minining or encouraging uniswap v3) will need to be considered.

_(note, I’ve not done a full review of trade sizes on Etherscan so I don’t know if large high price impact trades are happening)_

* * *

**Do we need to do liquidity mining on BTC2-FLI?**

With the continued support from sushiswap, I see no immediate need for INDEXcoop to provide rewards for this product on L1.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![overanalyser](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/gov.indexcoop.com/overanalyser/32/1319_2.png) [@overanalyser](https://gov.indexcoop.com/u/overanalyser)\
**Post date:** [27 June 2021 23:18 UTC](https://gov.indexcoop.com/t/liquidity-mining-strategy/1570/28 "2021-06-27T23:18:15Z")

</div>

## Looking at DPI liquidity from a product point of view.

**TLDR**

- DPI liquidity is spread across multiple pools including uniswap v3.
- The is an opportunity to encourage the main liquidity to move to uni v3 which should allow a significant reduction in INDEX rewards.
- We need to agree on the preferred route/speed of change as the current liquidity mining campaign finished in 2 week.

* * *

OK, I’ve been saving the best for last. $DPI is our largest product, with the most liquidity and has enjoyed significant liquidity mining incentives since launch. As such, it’s one of the coops largest costs with 567 INDEX being given to LPs every day ($8,505 per day = $3,100,000 per year @ $15 INDEX).

However, with the availability of [uni v3,](https://gov.indexcoop.com/t/uniswap-v3-research-and-recommendations/1784) and the existence of a [v3 pool](https://gov.indexcoop.com/t/dpi-eth-liquidity-on-uniswap-v2-and-v3/1720) there are more options available to ensure our users have access to liquidity while reducing cost to the coop.

The uni v3 research team has already recommended some options for DPI on-chain liquidity

> [@Uniswap V3 - research and recommendations](https://gov.indexcoop.com/t/uniswap-v3-research-and-recommendations/1784/1):
>
> There are several strategies for migrating DPI to V3 and we would like to request community’s feedback on the below options:
> 
> 1. Turn off incentives completely for the V2 pool and actively communicate our thinking to LPs.
> 2. Keep V2 incentives for another month, with a 50% reduction, and actively communicate that rewards will cease after this final period.
> 3. Manually incentivise LPs to migrate through an airdrop.
> 4. Partner with Harvest and provide some incentives to V3 LPs using Harvest’s vaults.

**Current on-chain liquidity**

| 27jun21 | Unit | Sushi | Uni v2 | Uni v3 |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| AUM | Million $ | 2.89 | 29.9 | 2.07 |
| 14 day average trade | Million $ | 0.17 | 1.61 | 0.20 |
| 14 day average fee | $ | 432 | 4,828 | 594 |
| Annualised average fee income | % | 5.5% | 5.9% | 10.5% |
| LM incentives (current) | % | 12.9% | 12.1% | 0% |
| LP rewards | % | 18.4% | 18.0% | 10.5% |
| DPI in pool | # DPI | 6651 | 69,204 | 7,620 |
| ETH in pool | ETH | 793 | 8,221 | 232 |
| DPI in pool | $ M USD | $1.4 | $14.8 | $1.6 |
| ETH in pool | $ M USD | $1.4 | $15.0 | $0.4 |
| Sell ETH for 1% price impact | ETH | 8 | 58.5 | 9.6 |
| Buy ETH for 1% price impact | ETH | 8 | 58.0 | 11.8 |
| Sell ETH for 2% price impact | ETH | 16.3 | 143.0 | 25.8 |
| Buy ETH for 2% price impact | ETH | 15.9 | 140.0 | 24.0 |

Note, that the uni V2 liquidity pool is significantly lower than the $55 M we have been targeting for the last 90 days. This is primarily due to the drop in both ETH and DPI prices. Looking at the number of LP tokens we see a steady reduction by about 30% since early April (28,405 LP tokens on the 4th April compared to 20,269 today)

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/uploads/theindexdao/original/2X/9/9091f72cdb07ae72d26b1581c03a03155e38002e.png)

Recent trading volumes have been lower than we have typically seen. Even so, the uni v3 LP’s are getting higher fee income than the v2 or Sushi pool, however, the average fees on v3 are not sufficient to exceed the effect of INDEX or SUSHI rewards.

In part, this is due to the liquidity being spread very wide, and a significant amount in ranges that do not cover the current price:

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/uploads/theindexdao/original/2X/9/9cff644a2bf50518f103566f5b1374fe03788174.png)

The [flipside uni v3 calculator](https://uniswapv3.flipsidecrypto.com/) calculates a fee-only yield of ~60% for liquidity +/- 8% of the spot price.

* * *

Previously the focus for liquidity mining has been on the price impact of large trades. With the goal being to have a large pool that can allow large trades to be carried out with minimal price impact, and efficient arbitrage trades to keep the price close to the NAV.

However, when looking at [recent trades](https://gov.indexcoop.com/t/dpi-eth-liquidity-on-uniswap-v2-and-v3/1720), its clear that many large purchasers are making full use of aggregators who split the swaps over multiple pools. These aggregators also access [stablecoin:DPI liquidity on 0x protocol](https://etherscan.io/tx/0x0791c0168ca3680cb94a8912a8aa861ece8a764755d1ec9ea5e5d91370cd9fd9) to give the best prices.

If we look at 1inch, for large trades (100 ETH), many liquidity sources are used. In this case, **less than 12%** of the total volume was routed through the Uniswap **v2 pool!**

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/uploads/theindexdao/original/2X/c/c0e41e8ee0fb725ac0b06673c729c69b2d9f7fc7.png)

So, for educated whales, the size of the uni v2 liquidity pool is not of critical importance.

(Anything less than 24 ETH was routed through Uni v2, v3 and sushiswap)

* * *

**Secondary effects of migration to uni v3**  
As discussed in the uni v3 research, moving DPI liquidity to uni v3 is expected to increase the depth of the market close to the spot price and the increased earnings for focused LP’s should allow INDEX rewards to be discontinued.

However, there are a number of secondary effects to be considered:

1. Having a massive AUM of on-chain liquidity raised the profile of DPI and gives comfort to holders that they can exit whenever they wish.
2. v3 is still new and people are still building tools to analyse each pool/build understanding of the behaviour of the pool.
3. The iNDEXcoop and Tokens sets buy process uses the v2pool (and exchange issuance for larger purchases), so that pool shrinking will produce more price impact for our users (until we get the UI updated).
4. Issue/redemption arbitrage currently happens via the v2 pool, so bot maintainer will need to update their bots. (I think the other pools are arb’ed against the v2 pool)
5. Automated v3 liquidity services are in development, but it’s still early days.
6. Staking contracts for v3 are under development, but have not been released.

* * *

**Personally,** I think that moving DPI liquidity to v3 will be good for the coop, and token holders. There will be more work for LP’s but those that do the work will continue to receive income from providing liquidity.

The main question is how quickly we want to move, and a key consideration is the fact that the current liquidity mining for DPI:ETH on v2 ends in about 2 weeks and an IIP will required to release INDEX funds into the staking contract.

I am looking forward to hearing your thoughts.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![overanalyser](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/gov.indexcoop.com/overanalyser/32/1319_2.png) [@overanalyser](https://gov.indexcoop.com/u/overanalyser)\
**Post date:** [27 June 2021 23:36 UTC](https://gov.indexcoop.com/t/liquidity-mining-strategy/1570/29 "2021-06-27T23:36:43Z")

</div>

OK, As DPI has the most options, I think some polls would be good to judge everyone’s thoughts and hopefully provoke some discussion.

So, some multiple option polls (please tick all options you would be happy with).

## Univswap v2 liquidity starting ~10 July

_i.e. a continuation of the current 30 staking contract._

_Poll ([view on site](https://gov.indexcoop.com/t/liquidity-mining-strategy/1570/29))_

## Uniswap v3 incentives in July

_In addition to (/ to replace ) the uniswap v2 liquidity mining, we can look to help/encourage liquidity to move to uniswap v2._

_Poll ([view on site](https://gov.indexcoop.com/t/liquidity-mining-strategy/1570/29))_

Thanks

OA

* * *

Poll closed 06 Jul 2021 @ 15:15 UTC

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![jdcook](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/gov.indexcoop.com/jdcook/32/324_2.png) [@jdcook](https://gov.indexcoop.com/u/jdcook)\
**Post date:** [28 June 2021 19:32 UTC](https://gov.indexcoop.com/t/liquidity-mining-strategy/1570/30 "2021-06-28T19:32:26Z")

</div>

Thanks for all this work @overanalyser ! I just wanted to quickly highlight a couple thoughts while they are fresh - might return to add more later if it looks helpful.

Your finding that only ~12% of 1inch volume on large trades was routed through v2 is enlightening. I have been a big proponent of the move to v3, but that just solidifies it. We need to stop incentivizing v2. It is not serving us. Even if that 12% starts moving to v3, the fees there will pick up and attract more active LPs.

The LPs that serve us on v3 will likely be very different than those on v2. And that is ok. v3 is a different game, but it is one that can serve us so much better than v2.

I think the v3 work team (myself included) needs to re-group and spec out more fully the migration so that we can get a better sense of all the ENG effort and other effort required and then we need to commit.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![overanalyser](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/gov.indexcoop.com/overanalyser/32/1319_2.png) [@overanalyser](https://gov.indexcoop.com/u/overanalyser)\
**Post date:** [30 June 2021 18:12 UTC](https://gov.indexcoop.com/t/liquidity-mining-strategy/1570/31 "2021-06-30T18:12:52Z")

</div>

During one of the coop calls today the topic of the overlap of INDEX holders and liquidity providers was raised and that they could have a conflict of interest.

For the sake of absolute transparency, I would like to disclose that I have been farming the following coop tokens:

- DPI:ETH on Uni v2 for INDEX (Since October 2020):
- INDEX:ETH on Sushiswap for $SUSHI (Since Dec 2020)
- MVI:ETH on Uni v2 for INDEX (Since April 2021)

I’m also LPing (unincentivised):

- INDEX ETH on Uni v2 (Since 2020)
- MVI:ETH Uni v3 (Since June 2021)

In the past (but no longer) I have also LP’ed:

- ETH2-FLI:ETH on Uniswap v2 .

I plan to continue to provide liquidity with coop tokens where I see an opportunity to make money.

However, I will endeavour to contribute to the coop (PWG/ work on liquidity etc) with a focus on the coops long term growth.

[Previous page](https://gov.indexcoop.com/t/liquidity-mining-strategy/1570.md?page=1)