I look forward to our chat given our agreement on the reward process; I expect it to be spirited. Given that I called for more open conversation and this would be taking the conversation back offline, I’ll give more context based on your characterization of the challenge being faced due to the nature of the finance function:
I’m going to propose that a community call format for F.Nest comms is in fact ideal, and I would insist it be made a safe space like any other call. The notion that because there may be some aspects of operations within a WG or Nest that house sensitive information, the entire body is exempt from engaging openly with the community, needs to be dispelled immediately.
To clarify I’m not by any means asking that all business be conducted in an open meeting format; all WGs have closed and open meetings to coordinate internally and externally, except a few and that’s a problem in my view. I’m mainly asking that this provision of the F.Nest proposal be scheduled monthly with some sort of agenda that provides updates on initiatives as well:
Surely not all finance matters are sensitive in nature; our accounts and transactions are public. I’ll ask that you please consider what aspects of what we entrust this Nest to do can be openly discussed and what can’t ahead of that call. Yesterday @Pepperoni_Joe presented a Nest structure of which F.Nest was 1 of 5 nests - if the stance of F.Nest is going to be that there will be no broad synchronous communication with this DAO, I see that as problematic.
The word accountability is used in the F.Nest funding request this quarter - so please tell me, who watches the watchmen? If F.Nest is giving feedback on what my WG is doing in funding terms you can bet I want to be able to show up and openly talk about how that process works - and if I were ever to find out that a contributor to my WG has had as rough a time as @Elmit engaging with a process that has been delegated, I’m not taking that to the DMs for satisfaction. We stand up before this DAO and make ourselves accountable, just like everyone else, so that we can surface these challenges and solve them together.
To put this another way @Louisaraj - this is a governance forum, not a complaint box; if it’s being used as such because a contributor has nowhere left to turn for resolution it represents a failure in the process that you’re acknowledging and we agree on. I feel my ask in response to this ongoing issue is not outsized: please provide an outlet for two-way feedback, live and in the open so we can solve problems together, so that things don’t get to this point again. Otherwise I don’t have confidence that this functional area can iterate synchronously at pace with the broader DAO - I’m not stating this to appear threatening in any way; I just genuinely see a walled-off accounting function as a threat to an organization that requires persistent contributor buy-in and calls itself a cooperative.
We’ve had a walled-off rewards process for some time, and quite literally the entire DAO has had to come together to solve this problem because access to improving the existing process has been denied. The real danger is NOT opening up the lines of communication as we can’t iterate on improving that area in coordination with the others. We all need to openly communicate at a predictable basal level. I just don’t think it’s too much to ask to open up a chat and get the conversation going with some regularity. Quite simply, I’ve noticed most dissonance and frustration that exists is generally involving aspects of this DAO that are hidden from view; we can’t move together when the comms only flow one way. Even the brain sends and receives feedback - no part of this organization is exempt from natural law. It doesn’t matter how fast we can run if we don’t know a nail just went through our foot.
I can’t believe I left a chill real world job to come to a DAO and subsequently beg for the accounting department to host an open call every month. F.Nest serves the INDEX holders and the DAO now that it manages payroll. The DAO, its contributors, and WGs support F.Nest. Imo this Nest needs to find a way to converse with the members of this DAO as there’s apparently conversation to be had. Please let’s work toward how to best foster that conversation when we speak @Louisaraj . Thanks for your attention on this; I’m confident we’ll find a way forward that simultaneously opens up comms and keeps sensitive information protected.